A VERY SPECIAL HOLIDAY GREETING TO OUR FRIENDS AND MEMBERS. OUR ERNEST HOPE IS THAT THE NEW YEAR WIll HARBOR THE WORLD IN FREEDOM, RESPECT, PEACE, AND PROSPERITY.

 

CUBAN NUMISMATIC ASSOCIATION                  NEWSLETTER 1-09

IS A 501(c) 3 ORGANIZATION (see newsletter 2-07)                       JANUARY 2009    

 

WWW.CUBANUMIS.COM                                            

Frank Putrow  (04)– President                                                                 

Andres Rodriguez (04) – Vice President                                                          Editor – Frank Putrow

Marysol Cayado (04) – Secretary                                                                         Fxputrow@aol.com                        Robert Freeman  (04)– Treasurer

Board of Directors   Richard Becker (04), Larry Casey (04), Jesus Inguanzo (08), Stan Klein (04), Emilio M. Ortiz (04) and Rudy Valentin (07).                                    Parliamentarian – Larry Casey.                         Chairman Communications Committee – Stan Klein.    Chairman Nomination Committee – Vacant.    Chairman Finance Committee - Emilio M. Ortiz.      Associate Director/Research – Enrique Cayado

 

Cuban Numismatic Association is a member of:

Florida United Numismatists (FUN) – www.funtopic.com

American Numismatic Association (ANA) – www.money.org

American Numismatic Society (ANS) – www.numismatics.org

Latin American Paper Money Society (LANSA) – www.lansa.bz  

 

NEWSLETTER INDEX 

Page  3          QUIZ.

Page  3          MEMBER PROFILE.

Page  4-5       COUNTERFEIT COINS          

Page  5-6       BILL vs. RECEIPT

Page  6-7       FOUNDING OF BANCO NATIONAL DE CUBA IN 1901

Page  9-10     FROM THE KITCHEN.

Page 11-15     LETTERS TO THE EDITOR.

Page 16-17    WANT ADS.

 

 

CUBAN NUMISMATIC ASSOCIATION (CNA) WILL MEET AT FUN 2009 COIN SHOW JANUARY 08 – 11, 2009 IN THE ORLANDO CONVENTION CENTER, ORLANDO, FLORIDA  

The Sixth Annual (Fifth Anniversary) CNA meeting will be held on Saturday, January 10, 2009.

The Board meeting will be held at 9:30am, and the General meeting will be held at 1:00pm. The meeting room number has been assigned as 220B. The General meeting will be informative, enjoyable, and businesslike. In addition, the CNA will man bourse table #457 on Friday (1-9), and Saturday (1-10). Drop by and say HELLO. CNA “wooden” 5 centavos, as well as other Cuban Numismatic materials, will be available.

A complete set of the Cuban Pattern Proof coins of 1995 will be on display in the meeting room. These coins were produced by the International Currency Bureau (ICB) of London, England, in a mutual arrangement with the Cuban Government. ICB employed an extraordinary range of innovative techniques to produce interesting and attractive coins for promotion of Cuba’s history and lore to the outside world. The coins highlight the beautiful butterflies, legendary pirates of the Caribbean, and Jose Marti, the father of Cuban Independence. Reportedly, these patterns were never officially actually approved by the Cuban Government, and issues are still pending.

Frank Putrow, CNA President, will provide a “state of the association”, oversee the election, and serve as the auctioneer. Bob Freeman, CNA Treasurer, will present the financial report of the CNA.  All the CNA officers and directors will be available for Q&A.

IF you have not attended a FUN Coin Show, this is a great opportunity to visit an awesome bourse, with over 300 tables. The FUN program also includes three days of informative lectures and demonstrations. In addition, the Florida weather is great in January. Hotel accommodations are available by calling toll free 1 866 748-9560, or www.funtopics.com

 

 

PLEASE REMIT YOUR 2009 CNA MEMBERSHIP DUES.

Regular membership is $10 per year; Junior membership (17 years of age or younger) is $5 per year. Payments should be mailed to our CNA Treasurer (Bob Freeman) at 523 N. Meridian Street, Tallahassee, FL. 32301-1281. Members who reside outside of the United States, or prefer not to mail a check, may pay, along with an extra dollar to PayPal, using the PayPal ID of Fxputrow@aol.com. The extra $1 will cover the PayPal commission. Please use the CNA membership application if any personal information has changed, such as address, email, etc., and mail it to Bob Freeman with the check.  If paying by PayPal, make the appropriate notation in the REMARKS section. IF you are not sure if you are current with your 2008 dues, please contact Frank Putrow at Fxputrow@aol.com or call 727 5317337.

If you are current with your dues –THANK YOU!!

Dues to the Association can be deducted on your 1040 tax form in certain circumstances.   
CNA members, who pay dues and receive the newsletter by email, are considered members making charitable donations to the club, and the Association dues are deductible on their 1040 tax form. 
Those members, who pay dues, but request that newsletters be mailed to them, should assume they get value for their donations and therefore should not consider Association dues as deductible charitable donations.

IF YOU ARE CURRENT WITH YOUR CNA DUES, AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED YOUR NEW LAMINATED MEMBERSHIP CARD, AND/OR

YOUR “WOODEN” 5 CENTAVO NICKEL, PLEASE CONTACT FRANK PUTROW AT THE ABOVE INFORMATION.

 

MEMBER PROFILE

Since the membership of CNA is so diverse, and separated geographically, it may be feasibly impossible for our members to meet and get to know one another. This section will highlight a member, or members, in each newsletter, providing a brief background of the person(s), so the membership may know a little about the person(s). It will be 100% voluntary. The officers and board members were first to provide their background, followed by the charter, then the regular members.

 

The CNA is privileged is have members of various ethnic, economic, political, and educational backgrounds. Among the mix are: business executives, lawyers, medical doctors, and PhD’s in religion, education, science, and government. The core of the CNA remains the “average” person, with numismatic interests, but it is interesting to know that such a variety of collectors are on our membership rolls, such as:

Jorge M. Rodriguez, CNA Charter Member # 27

I was born in Cuba in January 1952. I came to the United States in December of 1991 with my family and my brother. We left Cuba in a small crop duster plane, where we escaped to our freedom and landed at Guantanamo Bay U.S Naval Base and asked for asylum. After leaving Guantanamo, we moved to San Francisco, where we lived until 2000. I now live in Tampa, Florida.

While in Cuba I was a member of the Cuban Numismatic Association (Cuba), member #431, until I escaped to the United States in 1991. I joined the United States Cuban Numismatic Association (CNA), when it was established in 2004.  In Cuba, I was the president of the Numismatic Circle in the Province of Santiago, where I carried out the duties of president. I also published a quarterly bulletin called “Souvenir” for about a year. I was also a founder of a numismatic circle in my native city of Palma Soriano.

 

Presently, I am involved in collecting Cuban coins and currency and attend all of the Annual meetings, in Orlando, of the CNA in Florida.  For additional information, please Email me at toquen415@aol.com.    




QUIZ:

Answer found on page 7.

What year was the “sell off” of the Cuban silver pesos?

Who were the principals involved?

 

 

 

 

 

 

COUNTERFEITS ARE IN THE MARKETS !!

More now than ever, coin dealers and collectors are faced with the possibility that their purchase of an expensive coin could be counterfeit. What has happened to create this very serious issue?

Technology, combined with governments who do not criminalize the manufacture of these coins, are the reasons!!

Counterfeits are not new! For years, skilled hands have added mint marks and altered dates, but this new technology can produce excellent copies in large quantities. For example, observe the following:

There seems to be a series of counterfeit 1897 pesos, all three varieties, in the marketplace. The weight and dimensions of this particular counterfeit 1897 Cuban Peso are perfect. The metal is correct, the dies have no obvious “tells” and it has a frosty finish and a few bag marks.  A careful examination of these coins shows inconsistencies in the crispness of the strike and the apparent condition, which could be observed only with a microscope.  It helps if you have an authentic gem coin to use as a standard for comparison.  Superimposed photographic negatives show a near perfect correspondence of detail.

COIN WORLD, in the December 1, December 8, and December 15, 2008 issues, addresses the counterfeit coins that are being manufactured in China. The three articles, written by Susan Headley, are well written and include a documented interview with one of China’s top counterfeiters. Briefly, the counterfeiter feels certain that he is operating legally in China, which requires that the coins he makes are dated 1949 or earlier. As long as he sticks to this one important regulation and maintains his business certification (license), he says that he has nothing to fear from the Chinese authorities.

He is also unconcerned about his coins being sold on EBay.

He employs up to 30 people and his equipment is dated. Imagine the quality of his counterfeit coins when he modernizes his equipment.

It is recommended that all dealers and collectors review these three Coin World articles, especially the latter, which illustrates the PCGS blue-label holder, designed to insure the integrity of the certification.

The American Numismatic Association recently released the following information to its members, regarding the prolific introduction of counterfeit coins in the marketplace.

New counterfeit operations have sprung up across the world, particularly in China, where relaxed laws protect these operations from liability. The counterfeiters use clever production methods and cutting-edge die-making technology, creating forgeries that are difficult for most collectors to detect. A wide variety of counterfeit objects are being produced, including U.S. and world coins, paper money, errors, and even slabs. With the assistance of unprincipled dealers and investors, this new material is flooding the market at an astonishing rate, compromising the investments of
collectors and the integrity of honest dealers.
Below are some links that look at counterfeiting in greater detail, including an eye-opening article in Coin World exploring how new counterfeit material is produced and finds its way into the United
States market. In addition, the ANA will be developing a comprehensive online resource guide, offering counterfeit detection courses at Summer Seminar and conventions, and creating an exhibit exploring modern counterfeiting.  An educated numismatic community is the best defense against this widespread problem; we encourage everyone who loves the hobby to increase their awareness.
Coin World Article <http://www.coinworld.com
ANA Consumer Awareness Page:  http://www.money.org/content/navigationmenu/communications/consumerprotection2/default.htm
U.S. Mint Consumer Awareness Page:
http://www.usmint.gov/consumer/index.cfm?action=consumer
Department of the Treasury, Advanced Counterfeit Deterrence:
http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/domestic-finance/acd
Compilation of Articles on Counterfeiting (Robert Matthews):
http://www.coinauthentication.co.uk/CCNindex.html

CAVEAT EMPTOR (Buyer Beware) !!!!!!

The counterfeit trade is rapidly growing because of the inability of our government to enforce our trade policies in Third World countries. The only intelligent recommendation we can make is to buy only from reputable dealers and to stop purchasing any coins sold from suspect countries and dealers, or are not graded by a reputable third party. Even then, be aware that counterfeit holders have shown up in the market. See CNA newsletter 3 – 08, pages 12-16.

 

 

                  MAKE NO MISTAKE!!!   by Rudy Valentin, CNA Board Member.

A bill is not the same as a receipt!

Recently, we saw an auction catalog offering a written receipt from the, “Junta Central Republicana de Cuba y Puerto Rico” as a bill from Cuba. The confusion is understandable because it is the same error derived from the “receipt/bill” (coupons), issued by the Junta in New York, so that poor workers could buy Revolutionary bonds of the Republic.

They were issued in the amount of One Peso (Pick #61), 5 Pesos (Pick #62), 10 Pesos (Pick #63), and 20 Pesos (Pick #64). These were printed in 1869 and they all have rubber stamp signatures.

They were not legal tender and were only convertible into Bonds of the Republic, which did not exist at the time of issue.

The poor workers of the time would buy and gather these receipts until they had enough to pay for a bond, the smallest amount being 100 Pesos, a steep sum in those days. With these “receipts/bills”, one could buy the desired bonds at 25 % of their value.

The entire, and only, issue was lithographed in New York, instead of press print like the currency of the Republic. This was done to save money and because they were of lesser importance. The

total cost of the project was $248.00 . The total value of the issue was 100,000 Pesos. The only difference between them was the color and denomination. One Peso was black, 5 Peso blue, 10 Peso green, and 20 Peso was red. Afterwards, receipts were written from a regular receipt booklet like the one shown here, and sold in Europe posted as a currency bill.

 

In summary:

Paper Money = Currency, Bank Notes, and Bills have Legal Tender status and backing.

Receipt = written acknowledgment of a payment as a bill.

Reference: Havana Numismatic Museum Cuban National Archives.

 

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                      

     NEW INFORMATION ABOUT THE FOUNDING OF

     BANCO NACIONAL DE CUBA IN 1901, by Richard Becker, CNA Director.

Sometime ago, I purchased a rather interesting bank check drawn on the NORTH AMERICAN TRUST COMPANY of Havana, Cuba, dated June 7th 1899. A note that was included with the check stated “NORTH AMERICAN TRUST COMPANY became the BANCO NACIONAL DE CUBA in 1901”.

With this minimal information in hand, I began an interesting search on the internet and was able to fill in a little bit more information. I used several search engines, but most of the time, they led me back to several different articles written in the NEW YOK TIMES (NYT) during the mid–1890’s. These articles will be identified by date when properly needed by (NYT, date). What I have gleaned so far is probably minimal compared to what can be found if additional research is done, but will give us a brief idea concerning the background and the beginning of Banco Nacional de Cuba.

Our story starts in mid-December of 1895 when the (NYT-12/14/95) stated that “It was reported that the property of the Jervis-Conklin Mortgage Trust Company, with assets of more than $10,000,000, and the North American Trust Company merged. Samuel M. Jervis, who was the president of Jervis-Conklin Mortgage Trust, then assumed the presidency of the new company (still named) the North American Trust Company”. (NYT- 12/14/95) The North American Trust Company was organized in 1885 with original capital of $250,000. When I searched for information about Jervis-Conklin, nothing came up, but further searching may prove more fruitful).

 

In the mid 1890’s, far away from the hustle and bustle of New York City, the cries of “Viva la Revolucion, and Viva Cuba Libre” were again being heard across Cuba. Although the ten year war (1868-1878), and La Guerra Chiquita (1878-1880) had not ended in peaceful settlement and freedom from Spain, the revolutionary spirit still stood firm in the hearts and minds of Cubans. In 1892, Jose Marti formed the Partido Revolucionario Cubano, and the War of Independence was begun in 1895. The entrance of the United States into this conflict began, when on February 15th 1898, the U.S. Battleship Maine, which was visiting Cuba, mysteriously blew up in Havana harbor. The United States almost immediately considered the sinking of the Maine an act of Spanish aggression against the United States, although some years later, it was proven that the Maine actually blew up due to a malfunctioning boiler. At the time, it was an excellent reason to go to war with Spain. The shortest war in U.S. history ensued, with the U.S. battling Spain in Cuba and the Philippine Islands. In 1899, in the Treaty of Paris, Spain relinquished Cuba, with the U.S. forces continuing to occupy the island. In 1901, the Cuban constitution was drafted, incorporating the Platt Amendment which gave the U.S. the right of intervention. In 1902, the Cuban Republic was proclaimed, and the U.S. intervention ended. In the following paragraph, we will see how the North American Trust Company managed to gain a foothold in the new economy of Cuba.

There are no further references in the New York Times about the North American Trust Company, until an article appeared (NYT-1/20/98) that stated “Samuel M. Jervis, who has heretofore been President of the North American Trust Company, resigned from his position in favor of Col. Trenholm, and will hereafter devote himself more especially to the International business of the company. His new title will be as Vice-President. Mr. Jervis’s relations with North American Trust Company will not only be unchanged, but still more strongly connected both as an officer and as a stock holder”.

 

I found nothing more about Mr. Jervis or of the North American Trust Company until, in big bold type, a dateline (NYT-8/15/98) jumped on my computer screen. It read “North American Trust Company establishes an agency in Santiago on August 14. Mr. Jervis, Vice-President, and Cuban Manager of the North American Trust Company, will go to Havana, where he will establish headquarters for the whole island, with all revenues, duties, and taxes passing through their hands”. It seems that in the first few months of 1898, Mr. Jervis had indeed been a busy man to have established such a firm relationship with the U.S. Government, and to become its’ official agent in Cuba. This was certainly a rich plum that Mr. Jervis had been able to pluck. As illustrated by the referenced check that I purchased, dated June 7th 1899, the North American Trust Company was alive and well, operating in Havana, and presumably also in Santiago de Cuba. In 1901, while Cuba was still under U.S. occupation, the Cuban branch of the North American Trust Company changed its name, and began to operate under the name Banco Nacional de Cuba.

 

 

Answer to Quiz on page 3.

Coin World – August 14, 1974.

Silver pesos of Cuba held by the National Bank of Cuba were to be sold in the fall, 1950, through the Chase National Bank of New York City. The initial shipment was 6,406,000 coins, brought to NewYork by the Cuban frigate “Maximo Gomez”. The second shipment of pesos, totaling 6,446,000, arrived on the Maximo Gomez in early September. Chase National was to sell the silver coins on the open market, to be melted for industrial purposes. Most of the coins in the initial shipment were sealed intact in the same containers received by Cuba when they were shipped by the Philadelphia Mint.

Note: Attempts to verify this information with the Chase National Bank has been unsuccessful.

CNA NEWSLETTER ARTICLE INDEX

ISSUE/PAGE    DESCRIPTION

4-06/8                       1870 Essai        

4-07/14                     1870 Patterns

1-04/4                       1876 5 centavo

4-07/17                     1920 Proofs

3-06/7                       1869 1000 Peso Revolutionary Bond

2-07/14                     1869 Paper Money Issues of Cuba

4-07/4                       1869 5 Peso Error Note 

3-04/3                       ABC’s – The story behind the ABC’s

4-07/16                     ABC Design

1-04/3                       America’s involvement in Cuba

2-07/12                     Auction Results of Cuban Coins

3-08/18                     Auction Results of Cuban Coins

2-08/9                       Banco Espanol De La Isla De Cuba

1-09/6                       Banco National De Cuba

3-05/6                       Barber – Chief Engraver

1-09/5                       Bill vs. Receipt

3-05/10                     Brand Collection Auction of 1964

3-05/12                     Buyer Beware

4-05/8                       Casino Chips

1-08/9                       Chronology of the Minting of the First Cuban Coinage

3-04/2                       Cobs, Pieces of Eight and Treasure Coins

3-05/2                       Commemorative Coins

2-06/11                     Commemorative CNA Coin

3-08/12 & 1-09/4     Counterfeit Coins and Holders

2-04/4                       Cuban Coin Adventure

3-05/8                       Cuban Coins – A bit pricey

4-08/6                       Cuban Coins Host Unusual Native Species

2-04/2                       Cuban Market

4-05/12                     Cuban Market

4-06/11                     Cuban Mint Tour

1-05/3                       Currency – Collecting Cuban Currency

1-04/5                       Cuban Numismatics – Overview

1-04/6                       EBAY – Buying and Selling

1-04/2                       Embargo, as it applies to modern collectibles

1-08/7                       First Bank Notes of the Cuban Republic

1-06/7                       First Circulating Currencies

1-05/7                       First Strike of Cuban Coins

 

                                  FROM THE KITCHEN

1-09/10                      Cuban Custard “Natilla”

3-07/13                      Flan

4-06/10                      Flan Cake

4-07/20                      Mojito

4-06/10                      Paella  

1-09/9                        Palomilla Steak

1-09/9                        Pork Chunks

2-08/12                      Pork Leg (Stuffed)

4-08/8                        Pressed Cuban-Style Burger

3-08/18                      Rice Pudding

1-08/17                      Roast Pork

1-07/11                      Sautéed Fish and Tropical Salsa with Avocado and Greens Salad

2-07/19                      Ropa Vieja (Old Rags) with black beans and rice.                                 

2-07/20                      Tres Leche Cake

4-08/10                      Arroz Con Pollo (Yellow Rice and Chicken)

 

1-04/8                        Grading

3-04/9                        Grading 101

3-07/10                      Habana Real Hacienda Seal

2-05/6                        Keys of Cuba

3-04/10                      Luster

3-06/9                        Medals – Moro Castle (1762)

1-06/8                        Monetary Conversion after Spanish America War

2-04/4                        Our Man in Cuba

2-07/8                        Population Report of NGC and PCGS certified Cuban coins.

3-08/20                      Proof – Proof Like – First Strike

2-04/11                      Relief – High and Low

3-08/10                      Sea of Gold and Silver around Cuba

1-04/6                        Souvenir Peso – 1897

2-04/6                        Souvenir Peso – 1897, and 1898 Peso

2-05/5                        Trafalgar – A rich Naval history

4-07/8                        Tokens – Sugar Estates (Section 1)

1-08/9                        Tokens – Sugar Estates (Section 2) 

2-08/4                        Tokens – Sugar Estates (Section 3)

3-08/5                        Tokens – Sugar Estates (Section 4)

2-07/5                        Tokens – Military and Post Exchanges

3-06/5                        Tokens - Tobacco Plantations

3-07/5                        Tokens - Transportation

2-06/6                        Treasurer’s Report  

4-08/3                        Treasurer’s Report

 

  

FROM THE KITCHEN: The following recipes are courtesy of Cubanfoodmarket.com

Palomilla Steak

Ingredients:

·         Two boneless sirloin steaks, cut very thin, 10-12 oz. each

·         Juice of one lemon

·         Three cloves of garlic, mashed

·         ½ cup of diced white onions

·         ¼ cup chopped fresh parsley

·         One teaspoon salt, and one tablespoon of olive oil

Rub the chopped garlic on the surface of both steaks. Add the lemon juice, and cover with plastic wrap. Marinade in the refrigerator for about an hour. Heat the olive oil in a shallow frying pan. Add salt (to taste), and fry quickly on both sides until done.

Place cooked steaks on serving plates and top with chopped parsley and onions. Garnish with a wedge of lemon. Serve with white rice and fried Julianne potatoes.

 

Pork  Chunks

Ingredients:

·         2 ½ lbs. fresh pork

·         Four cloves of garlic

·         Juice from two limes

·         One teaspoon salt

·         Juice from one sour orange

·         ¼ teaspoon of pepper

Cut pork into 1 ½ inch cubes. Smash garlic in bowl, adding lime juice, sour orange juice, salt, and pepper. Marinade pork in this mix for three hours. Save marinade for basting when cooking.

Cook in oven for two hours at 200 degrees. Brown in broiler for braised appearance.

Serve with marinade on the side.

You may prefer to fry the pork rather than oven-bake.

In this case: cut pork in 1 inch cubes, leaving fat in the meat. In a pot pan, place two cups of water and 2 tablespoons of salt. Bring the water to a rapid boil and put in the pork. Do not cover. Let boil at low heat until all the water has evaporated and only the pork fat is in the bottom of the pan.

Continue cooking in the pork fat, stirring at times, until the chunks are golden brown. When done, remove and drain fat using paper towels.

Serve with sauce prepared with garlic, lime juice, sour orange juice, salt, and pepper.

Serve with white rice and apple sauce.

 

CUBAN CUSTARD “NATILLA”

Ingredients:

*  2 teaspoons vanilla extract                             *  4 cups of milk (whole)

*  1 cup of sugar                                                  *  6 egg yolks

*  4 tablespoons of corn starch                           *  ½  teaspoon salt

Preparation:

In bowl, mix 6 egg yolks, 1 cup of milk, and 4 tablespoons of corn starch. Stir well and strain.

In a separate bowl, mix the rest of the milk, sugar, and salt. Mix well and cook over medium heat. When hot, add the egg mix. Lower the heat to low and continue stirring at a fast pace, until thick. Take off heat and mix in the vanilla extract. Let cool (IMPORTANT) before placing in the refrigerator. Refrigerate at least two hours before serving.

 

                                                                                                        

LETTERS TO THE EDITOR

# 1   RC sent the following email. 

Hello from Ottawa, Canada. I have enjoyed your website.

I am wondering if you or your members have knowledge of a 5 centavo coin made (it seems certain) of plastic. (A photo of a 1968 5 centavo accompanied this email). It seems slightly smaller in diameter and a bit thicker than a “normal” aluminum 5 centavo piece. But, it weighs almost exactly the same.

Do I have play money, a counterfeit, or some odd, actual coin here?

Any information you might be able to provide would be great appreciated.

 

Response by Frank Putrow.

Thank you for the email regarding the suspect Cuban 1968 5 centavo, possibly made of plastic.

This is the first that I have heard of this.

My first guess would be that someone dipped it into a plastic solution, like plastic melted by acetone. In this case, the ridges would probably have a "filled in" appearance.

The aluminum 1968 5 centavo coin specification is 21mm. If it was dipped, the size would be at least 21mm, and probably 21 1/2mm. Do you have a micrometer to measure it?

If the item was mine, I would get a nail file, and file down a place on the edge. If it is plastic coated, you will see the bright aluminum after a few strokes. The image of the coin reveals that the coin is in pretty bad shape, so a small file mark should make little difference.

If you still think that it is plastic throughout, I will do some research.

RC responds:

“Hola Frank: 

You are correct!

The coin is nearly the precise diameter, thickness and weight of a real aluminum one.  And the details are not less noticeably distinct.  So I made a minor edge scraping and BINGO!  It is shiny aluminum under a thin layer of plastic! 

Thanks for helping me solve the mystery.

The question I now have is:  why would someone do this?  Just fooling around or some other purpose that might be interesting?”

 

#2  JI sent the following email:                                                                                         

I have a question about a 1962 Cuban coin, about the size of a US half dollar. When I looked at the pictures of all the national heroes who are on Cuban coins, I realized that the picture on this particular coin was missing from the pictures listed. Is there a way that I can find out who is on this coin? I was told it was uncirculated for many years.

Thank you

                                                                                                                           
Response by Frank Putrow.

Thank you for the email regarding the 1962 Cuban coin.

Without further description, it may be a 1962 Cuban 20 centavo. The obverse is Jose Marti, the declared "Father of Independence" of Cuba. He was the man behind the Cuban Revolution, and the 3 wars that led up to the independence of Cuba. Unfortunately, he was killed in battle, and never experienced the Cuban independence that he gave his life for.

If you have a computer, Google his name to learn more about his life.

If the coin is not the 1962 20 centavo, please provide me with additional information.

 

J.I. responds:

“I did some further research after emailing you and I believe it is Camillo Gornaron and it is a 40 cent piece. Please forgive the spelling as it is from memory.  From very limited research, I believe coins were made in the US, Czechoslovakia, and USSR in 1962.  Is that correct?

Is there any way to find out which country printed this particular coin?

When I checked Cuban coins, the Patria Muerte, this particular coin representing Camillo Gornaron was not listed. I've since found the likeness on the 40 not the 20. Do you have any information?  Thank you for responding so quickly.” 

 

Frank Putrow answers:

Thanks for the response.

I did some further research, and discovered that there was indeed a 40 centavo minted in 1962. There were 15,250,000 minted in at the Kremnica mint in Czechoslovakia. The bust on the obverse is believed to be of Camilo Cienfuegos Gomaran, a popular revolutionary leader who disapeared mysteriously in the early days of the Castro regime. Acquaintances of Cienfuegos, and some historians, insist that the image does not resemble him. The images that I have seen of Cienfugeos portray a younger man with a very long, and scruffy beard. Perhaps the coins depicts a mature Castro??

This also was the first year that the Cuban 40 centavo was not minted in silver, but rather nickel (.25) and copper (.75)

Please visit vwww.cubanumis.com for interesting articles about Cuban numismatics and the Cuban Numismatic Association.

 

And finally, J.I.:

I saw that the spelling was Gornaron on two numismatic sites; and also have seen Gomaran.

The face does not look anything like Fidel Castro by any stretch.  And, it does resemble in profile the pictures that I have seen of Camilo Cienfuegos more than it resembles any other of the faces I have seen.

 

#3. F.J. sent the following email:

Note: Email is sent in Spanish. Editor cannot read or write Spanish.                                                                 

Estimados senores,

Le estoy pidiendo un favor para que me ayudes en mi busqueda.

Estoy investigando a proposito de la historia y los origines de las hamacas en el mundo. En Cuba se encuentra una moneda de 5 pesos (ver foto adjuntada) en cual se puede ver distinctamente dos personajes importantes que se hablan mientras estan sentados en sus hamacas. Estoy buscando precisamente, lo que representa esta escena, quien esta representado y en que epoca fue.

Le agradesco mucho por cualquier ayuda me puedes enviar y les envio mis cordiales saludos desde Francia.

Response by Enrique Cayado, CNA Associate Director/Research, and Charter Member. Hi Frank.  This person wants to know about hammocks and the tropics. You can send him the following if you want.

Frank Putrow responded to F.J.

“PROTESTA De BARAGUA” Engraving of an oil painting by Hérnandez Giró.  Depicts meeting of Arsenio Martinez Campos and Antonio Maceo, Spanish and Cuban Generals respectively, March 15th 1878.  Maceo had repudiated the peace treaty of Zanjón Feb 15th, and the war of 1868 had resumed on Feb 23rd.  Martinez asked to meet and convey alternative terms; these were rejected.                                                                        Several sketches of this meeting exist. This one is not contemporary. I think this is the only one that shows hammocks, standard issue in both armies.  I do not know much about hammocks except they were widely used by sailors and soldiers throughout the world whenever the floor was wet.

 

#4. M.D.F. sent the following email:

Editor: 

I am researching several coins recovered from an archaeological site here in Broward County. The collection of coins include several we have discovered, that retain a “lattice and star”counter stamp. To the best of my abilities, I have been able to determine that the stamp is a Cuban inflation counter-stamp from 1841.

Please see the attached images:    

(1) 1810 Joseph-Nap with counter-stamp.                                                                            

(2) 1788 2-Reale (illegible).

(3) 1826 Ferdin VII 2-Reale (Madrid - reverse illegible).

I am looking to learn more about this topic and would appreciate any information you could provide, such as references, contacts, or personal knowledge. 

I am currently trying to establish a firm terminal date for the deposition of the archaeological site, presumably after 1841, when these stamps (if they are 1841 Cuban inflation counter-stamps) would have been applied.

Thank you very much for your time. If nothing else, I hope you enjoy the images.

 

 

Response by Rudy Valentin, CNA Director and Charter Member:

M.D.F. is correct. The countermark is Cuban. It was issued in the provinces of Trinidad, Santiago, and Puerto Principe. These coins were devaluated in Spain, but due to the poor communications in those days, the unaware accepted them at face value. By royal decree, they were called “countermarked” and released again at their new value.

 

Mr. Valentin later responded directly to M,D.F:

Although there is very little information available on these coins, it is well accepted by most that they were made for the Island of Cuba.  Around 1839 more/less, there was a huge shortage of small denomination coinage in Cuba. Coincidentally, a devaluation took place in Spain of the 2 and 4 silver, real de vellon. Smart traders saw the opportunity to obtain those in Spain at its devaluated rate and pass them in Cuba for their face value, thus making an illegal profit. Because of the lack of information, ignorance and need of the small change coins, the people accepted them. Nevertheless, the Governor of the island became aware and banned the importation.

On May 22, 1841, by Royal Decree, the pieces were recalled, accounted, counter-stamped and released at the new, true value in the provinces of Trinidad, Santiago and Puerto Principe.

For this task, 50 punches were made. Thus, the slight difference between some impressions. All the counter-stamped coins were, 2 and 4 silver Spanish reales, minted at the Madrid, Sevilla, Catalonia, Cadiz and Valencia Mints.

 

Yes! I will be glad to help you with this project. Just let me know how. I assume that the Cuban Numismatic Museum of Havana must have more information on this subject, since they dedicate much time and effort to the historic research of Cuban numismatics.

Since you are in the Brower County Historical division, I believe that you will enjoy an article that I wrote for the FUN-TOPICS, which is the magazine of the FLORIDA UNITED NUISMATIST. It was published in their Fall 2008 issue. You can obtain a free copy by calling Jim Best, the editor. Tel: 863-644-0903 or E-Mail funtopics@aol.com

 

  

 

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  1. Cuban NGC MS63 1915 10 Centavo - $150, includes SH&I.

Cuban NGC MS62 1916 10 Centavo - $450, includes SH&I.

Cuban NGC MS63 1920 10 Centavo - $275, includes SH&I.

Cuban NGC MS61 1915HR 20 Centavo - $125, includes SH&I.

Cuban NGC MS61 1915LR 20 Centavo - $50, includes SH&I.

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    2.  Centavos:

        1. 1916, KM-9.1-  XF/AU.....$20.00   2. 1920, KM-9.1   XF.....$2.00   3. 1946, KM-9.2      

                AU.....$2.00   4. 1953,KM-9.2a   VF$0.30...XF$0.50  5. 1961, KM-9.2   

                XF/AU…..$.50…UNC...$1.00  6. KM-33.1, 1963 XF/AU $0.50, 1972, AU/UNC $0.75,  

                BU $2.00  1978 AU/UNC $1.00, B/U 2.00,    1981 ,XF/AU $0.75, B/U $2.00  

                2004, KM-33.3, B/U $2.00

        Dos Centavos:

          1915, KM-A.10, 1915..VF/XF $2.00 1916, Vg/Fine..$18.00 / KM-104.2..1983..UNC  $1.00     

          1984..AU/UNC.. $1.00

          Five Centavos:

          KM-11.1 1920, F/VF $1.00, XF $2.00  A/U 3.00   KM-11.3, 1946, VF$050, XF/AU $1.00   

          Unc $8.00,  1961, UNC, $1.00

          Ten Centavos:

          KM-A12  1948, AU $10.00, BU $20.00

       Twenty Centavos:

          1948, KM-13.2..VG/F 1.50   1949, KM-13.2  Fine $1.50 ,AU$8.50, B/U $20.00   1953, KM-

          27, XF$1.50, A/U $3.50 1968 KM-31, VF/XF $0.75

          1971 & 1972  F/VF $0.75,  XF/AU 1.75

Intur:

       Five Centavos:

         1981, KM-411  AU/UNC $3.00  KM-412.1 VF $0.75 XF$1.00   1984, KM-575.1,   

         AU/UNC$1.00

       Ten Centavos:

          1981 KM-415 Unc. $3.00  KM-415.1  U/U $3.00...1994KM-576.1  AU/Unc $1.50   1996,  

          KM-576.2 UNC $1.50

       TwentyFive Centavos:

          1981, KM-417 AU/UNC $3.00  KM-418.1  XF $2.00 AU $5.00   1994, KM-577.1, A/U $2.50

       Three Pesos:

          1992, KM-346.a  Unc $12.00  B/U eyeless $15.00

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3.Cuban VF – AU centavos (1c to 40c) for sale. 75% of Krause list. Many to choose                    

 

       from. Guaranteed satisfaction. Contact Jesus Inguanzo at

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             Free S&H to all CNA members. Sarita   070107

 Wanted

       1.  Modest collector desires Cuban coins with ships highlighted on obverse. Contact 

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 2. Modern Cuban Exchange, Visitor and minted coinage:                              

Paper Issue, 1995 Marti 1 Peso. Krause 114 (Specimen).                                                                       Peso coin, INTUR 1989, Krause 580.                                                                              Five Centavo coin, CUC type, 2006, Krause 575.2.                                       Twenty five Centavo coin, CUC type, 2007, Krause 577.2.   Fifty Centavo coin, CUC type, Krause 578.            All 2008 paper and coin issues; CUC type and regular business strikes.                                  Contact Angel Giannotti at agiannotti@gmail.com.  093008

         3.  English version of CUBA, A COUNTRY AND ITS CURRENCY, in very good

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         4. 1937 ABC Peso and Gold 1915 4 Peso in VF-XF condition with no problems.   

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